i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
As I do not think I will "save" anyone from the org, I also do not want to just yell "get off my stoop!"
I want to at least make a well thought out stand that can be heard and understood.
Thanks Island Man for that response. I will need to look up those scriptures and think about the possible arguments that the CO may raise.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
In thinking about the subject I thought about all the people who were disfellowshipped and shunned and had their children and friends turn against them for standing up for what the bible actually says but the WTS currently was not teaching as Truth......just to have that Truth change and possibly agree with former "apostates." And that was all part of God's plan and was testing who would be loyal to the WTS??
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i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
I completely agree. I was once a person who defended the Witnesses and saw myself as intelligent and biased and open minded......Things I still see as true about myself.....
Not everyone is in on the joke......
Many people are well meaning, and somewhat reasonable and smart individuals who are blinded for a wide variety of reasons and who have been misled.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
Very good suggestion about not seeming too eager to shoot them down.
I kind of want to get to the heart of the issue:
How do we know that the WTS is God's organization? Where does it get it's authority? And how does all the change in doctrine, the flip-flopping of policies, and rules that go beyond what the Bible has to say fit into that?So take that I believe in God and the Bible (for the sake of argument), why does a person need to come to JW meetings and be baptized into the org?
I am not sure how to word that kind of question....
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
All great suggestions. Thank you guys!
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
haha I like the generations suggestion.
"I was having difficulty making sense of the overlapping generations when looking up the scriptures. Can you help me?"
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
I didn't really intend on engaging with him this much. I don't really have an end goal.
I was baptized and made it a point to not be DFed when I left. I still have a good relationship my my parents.
I like the suggestion of the dishonesty of the quotes they use.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
I started watching the first one. I will watch them later.
There isn't really anything specific in the videos (from what I have heard) that I can solidly refute. It seems to be a cherry-picking of their history.
Some topics I was considering raising:
The flood could not have happened.
Going beyond what is written - blood fractions, beards, sisters wearing pants to meetings, etc
Looking for some simple statements that would be hard to defend against in any real way....without setting off too many apostate alarms.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
I am 6th generation. I have been out for a few years.
Back story on the situation:
I had a CO come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood. I told him I was raised JW and he has come bck a few times.
This last time he asked for a specific example of my doubts that caused me to leave. I mentioned the WTS and all the prophesies they have made that hadn't come true and what the Bible says about false prophets. I also asked him how he rationalizes these things in his own mind. I also mentioned Russell and The Finished Mystery in 1919 when Jesus was said to have chosen the Bible Students and all the whacky things contained in that book and being taught at that time. He told me he would get back to me. I got a text from him today asking me to watch the 2 part video Faith In Action.
So I am looking for one or two solid and basic points that I can make that would demand an answer/explanation. I don't want to come off too apostate-y. So just a simple point that I can give as to why, with my Bible trained conscience, I cannot be a Witness.
What would you suggest? Thanks!
